I am pissed

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Feb 4, 2010, 05:50 PM#1
So this is the second time I got vac banned, in around 2 weeks. As some of you might know (or not), my Steam account got vac banned got banned about two weeks ago. I thought I had a good idea about how that happened, as I used a tool to rank up quickly and unlock everything in CoD MW2. So yeah, that sucked plenty of dick, seeing as I had a boatload of games on that account. And while the ban was only in effect for MW2, I'd rather not play on a banned account, as people visiting your community page can tell you have been banned, and they'll just automatically assume you're a cheater. But anyways, I accepted the ban, as I knew that using that tool could possibly get me banned.

I moved on, made a new account, and decided to just purchase the complete Valve pack from the steam store. This pack costs 90 euros, (80 pounds or something) + Gmod, which added up to 100 euros. I did this a little over a week and a half ago. To my surprise/shock I got vac banned _AGAIN_ last week. Any people who know me, know it's already hard enough for me to tell people I'm not cheating, on the TF2 server, without needlessly getting VAC banned. I have stayed away from any real cheats all of my gaming life. My 'cheating' being restricted to a week of transparent textures in CSS, and a victimless 'cheat' that allows me to rank up quickly in MW2.

Knowing it's impossible to be unbanned by VAC, I was furious when I tried to enter our TF2 server and a VAC popup appeared saying I couldn't enter the server, as it was VAC secure. I had just wasted 100 euros on an account I got to use for exactly 1 week. Knowing I wouldn't be unbanned, I still decided to contact Steam support. I reckon they get shit loads of mails everyday by VAC banned people hoping to get unbanned, as the only thing they sent back was a three line e-mail basically saying that I had used a cheat, which was picked up by VAC, and that I would have to create a new account, as the banned account will not be unbanned. After a few replies back and forth, I asked support if it could have anything to do with an overlay like Xfire ingame. The tech/support guy was confident that Xfire could not have caused this, as thousands of people use Xfire in steam games, and they don't get banned. Made sense, obviously, as I've been using xfire for years. After playing Mass Effect 2 for a few days, I started thinking about what could've caused it, as I hadn't injected any files while playing, and I obviously don't hack. I came to the conclusion all this was caused by a program called eVGA Precision which is an overclock, and monitoring program for use on Nvidia gpu's. I've been using that program for about 2 months when I bought a second hand 8800GT after my old HD3850 broke down. The problem doesn't lay within the problem being installed or used for overclocking, but the fact that you can enable an overlay for use in any game which displays the FPS, temperature and mhz of your card. I've been using that overlay ever since I started using the program. I asked the tech guy if that could be it, as I assumed it injects itself into the game the same way something like a wallhack would do. The tech guy said it is possible, but the last time he heard of something like that was a long time ago. I was pretty convinced the eVGA Precision tool was the troublemaker, especially as the guy from support didn't immediately deny the possibility like they normally do with VAC bans.

This led me to conclude that my first Steam account wasn't banned by the rank up tool I used in MW2, but rather by this program that also managed to give me my second VAC ban...
I'm not willing to risk another account, so I just decided to get it over with and go for a complete format of my HDD's. It's still strange, as I've googled around, and there are still few people who use this tool for a year and are not banned. But as of now, it's the only thing I can think of that makes any sense, especially seeing the support guy said it could have been possible. Apparently, it's a rare case. Yet it already happened to me two times in a row.

For those not sure what the overlay I'm talking about looks like: http://i47.tinypic.com/i57rld.jpg in the top left corner.

I tried to play TF2 on my first banned account (which until then only had a MW2 ban), and subsequently, it was also VAC banned from all source games, but only after it got banned from MW2 first. Which makes sense, as I almost exclusively played MW2 for the first few weeks of using the tool.

The problem is, quite a few people use this tool and are not banned (the majority). A few people use this tool and do get banned. These banned people are subsequently branded as cheaters who are too afraid to admit they cheat or something.

I'm completely livid. I just lost an account worth well over 200 euros, and then an account worth 100 euros due to some bullshit. And not only that, but I suspect people will now definitely brand me a cheat. Needless to say, I'm extremely pissed off, about the huge deal of money lost, the whole situation, and the fact that this is extremely bad for one's reputation.

Just for the smartasses who are now thinking "omg no wonder he's an awesome tf2 player he's been haxing for all this time": Die in a ditch, I haven't used any cheat.

For everyone else: I'll probably acquire another steam account and continue on playing TF2, depending on the admin application results (as in, playing right now, or taking a break).

Thanks for reading my rant.
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Feb 6, 2010, 02:57 AM#21
Wow that really sucks, that's a lot of $ lost and time etc. Format was a good idea, the whole no appeal thing on steam is really obnoxious. I've never been banned but It seems a bit ridiculous, not everyone who gets vac banned is a cheater, a friend of mine was using an Application for the lcd screen on his keyboard that took information from the console such as kills etc and displayed it and he got VAC banned. I mean is it purely for business purposes? You did end up spending an extra $100+ due to not being able to appeal, VAC bans are just not always just usually but not always.

Oh well, whats done is done. good luck.
Feb 6, 2010, 08:49 AM#22
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Feb 6, 2010, 09:38 AM#23
The better view is not because of any 3rd party tool or anything. It's just what happens when you greatly lower the graphics.

As a sidenote, I just 'acquired' a new Steam account with lots of games!


I'm against hacking passwords and shit. Whats the point, because you lost your own account to cheating?


Wow. You disappoint me greatly. I'm all for being calm and friendly, and I really tried to be nice to you, and I really would rather not get in a fight with an admin... But what the fuck is wrong with you? How many times do you want me to tell you I didn't cheat? Explain to me, why would a cheater immediately spend €100/$136/£87 on a second Steam account after his first one got banned. That would be a pretty stupid move to make eh? If you are a cheater that is. Why would a cheater donate money to a server...just to cheat on and risk getting banned? Seems like a pretty stupid move to make eh? If you are a cheater, that is.

And where did I say I hacked a password? I paid for this account, I have connections, I didn't steal any account. Several of my friends deal in Steam accounts, players who have had low digit Steam accounts come to them and they buy and resell them again. Simple. I don't care if my friends hack passwords, or legitimately buy them. I don't ask them where they get their supply. They either 'get' them or they buy them from the original owner. In my case, it's a fully legitimate account as I got full proof of purchase for every game on that account.

Now get off my back. This pisses me off.
Feb 6, 2010, 10:59 AM#24
I feel sorry for you Aya, hope you resolve your issue. I got VAC'D so i moved account but, i'm just trying to sympathize with you.
Feb 6, 2010, 11:39 AM#25
The better view is not because of any 3rd party tool or anything. It's just what happens when you greatly lower the graphics.

As a sidenote, I just 'acquired' a new Steam account with lots of games!


Cool i hope we see you back mate, assuming the stats DB works like i think it might if you give karl your new steamid he should be able to amend the DB manually so you won't have to restart from 0 again, will be good to have you back mate voice isn't as much fun without you :(

Also my brother now has a mic so he can more actively join in the amusing conversations :)

Hope to have you headshot me again soon :P
Feb 6, 2010, 11:58 AM#26
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Feb 6, 2010, 01:02 PM#27
Sure, I know trading steam accounts is illegal. I don't really care though, it's a victimless crime to me. All I care about is that I personally paid for the account I acquired. I would never steal an account or anything.
Feb 6, 2010, 01:37 PM#28
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Feb 6, 2010, 01:52 PM#29
Don't worry Aya, its Conor's "time of the month"
Ignore him. I just drown out his sound when he speaks :P

Conor. Let me point out an error in your thing.
1. You have cheated SHITLOADS on online games. Aimbotting on Halo CE and Nightfire maybe?

Plus, stopping screaming down the FUCKING microphone when something doesn't go your way in the damn steam chats.
Feb 6, 2010, 02:29 PM#30
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Feb 6, 2010, 02:40 PM#31
Lol. I rant, that's all.
Plus, yea I've hacked in Halo and Nightfire, but tbh thats before I had any Steam games.


Well I don't really care if people have cheated in the past. I just want to make it very clear I haven't cheated apart from what I described in my opening post. Conor, apology accepted ofcourse, I'm not necessarily angry at you. You just have to imagine how really annoying it is when someone implies/says you cheat, when you haven't. It's just eughiwesughiseghskghergherg.

Everyone else, thanks for the support! I am ready to start playing again after I contact Karl.
Feb 6, 2010, 03:34 PM#32
Lol. I rant, that's all.
Plus, yea I've hacked in Halo and Nightfire, but tbh thats before I had any Steam games.


Yea, it may still be running in memory Aya. Good thinking to reformat.. But I have a feeling it could be prevented by checking processing running after ditching this tool..

The overlay didn't get Aya VAC'd. However it may be possible.. I always exit Steam when I use aimbots and hacks on Halo 1 and 2 and other crap like that.



You're a hypocrit AND a liar :raise:
Feb 6, 2010, 06:53 PM#33
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Feb 7, 2010, 04:33 AM#34
Lol. I rant, that's all.
Plus, yea I've hacked in Halo and Nightfire, but tbh thats before I had any Steam games.


Well I don't really care if people have cheated in the past. I just want to make it very clear I haven't cheated apart from what I described in my opening post. Conor, apology accepted ofcourse, I'm not necessarily angry at you. You just have to imagine how really annoying it is when someone implies/says you cheat, when you haven't. It's just eughiwesughiseghskghergherg.

Everyone else, thanks for the support! I am ready to start playing again after I contact Karl.


oh noes, I'm going to get pushed from Rank 50 to 51 once you rejoin :monocle:

lol, I'll get like 19 kills one life and then die 5 times within seconds of spawning and lose 25 each time.
Feb 7, 2010, 10:49 AM#35
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Feb 7, 2010, 11:06 AM#36
TF2 requires skill. Skill is something that runs away from me, very fast.
Feb 7, 2010, 12:58 PM#37
TF2 requires skill.


lol hardly. Pick Pyro, run forward while holding the fire button. Get shit loads of points.
Feb 7, 2010, 01:44 PM#38
lol hardly. Pick Pyro, run forward while holding the fire button. Get shit loads of points.


I tried that. I stopped after ramming a wall for five minutes. DOES NOT WORK.
Feb 7, 2010, 02:03 PM#39
lol hardly. Pick Pyro, run forward while holding the fire button. Get shit loads of points.


I tried that. I stopped after ramming a wall for five minutes. DOES NOT WORK.


:v
Feb 7, 2010, 10:32 PM#40
I even suck at pyro. That's how much i suck. Also, your technique fails when you have a camping sniper or a heavy medic combo.
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