Complaint against [GT]Chaoslava

DB and Chaos, get on with it, shake hands and put it behind you, Im tired of the flaming and whining on BOTH sides.

The first issue that was addressed with Chaos. Not good judgment from Chaos, a torn in the side, should he be removed as admin for doing that? NO. Should he be removed as admin if he continues to do this time after time, YES. This is the first "official" complaint, doesnt matter how much you guys complain about him on the serverchat.

Ive got no problems with Chaos. He is a good admin, more tolerant than me in many cases. There has been episodes, but no one is perfect.

My advise is, lets all start with a blank page and see how it goes from there.

You still forget this isn't anywhere near DB vs Chaoslava. This is just about Chaoslava being a bad admin, and has nothing to do with DB.

Again another fellow admin trying to divert attention to DB vs Chaoslava which does not exist anyway.. its just Chaoslava vs the rest. Admins should of course stick up for eachother, but i'm surprised you are sticking up for him now, even though he just yesterday continued to display his inmaturity, which again can be found in the chat log from the server.

This is the first "official" complaint yes, but I have written Karl 3 times about Chaoslava's bad attitude as an admin. And everyone else seems to think that I have now gone too far.. And it has.

And btw, if you still think he's a good admin, then you really really lack people judging skills and reality sense. No offence :)

But no, no blank page. Chaoslava must stand responsible to what he has done.

You still forget this isn't anywhere near DB vs Chaoslava. This is just about Chaoslava being a bad admin, and has nothing to do with DB.

Again another fellow admin trying to divert attention to DB vs Chaoslava which does not exist anyway.. its just Chaoslava vs the rest. Admins should of course stick up for eachother, but i'm surprised you are sticking up for him now, even though he just yesterday continued to display his inmaturity, which again can be found in the chat log from the server.

This is the first "official" complaint yes, but I have written Karl 3 times about Chaoslava's bad attitude as an admin. And everyone else seems to think that I have now gone too far.. And it has.

And btw, if you still think he's a good admin, then you really really lack people judging skills and reality sense. No offence

But no, no blank page. Chaoslava must stand responsible to what he has done.

Now you are pissing me off. My experience with Chaos on the server has been good. Ive never seen him abuse his rights. Ive seen the chat logs, its bad, its very bad, but its not just him. I find it funny that you can say im lacking people judging skills and reality sense based on what I have seen, do you know what I have seen?

Chaos must off course stand responsible to what he has done. It has gone to far, I agree. Have you take it up with Chaos besides in the serverchat?

And why do you say I divert the attention?

The first issue that was addressed with Chaos. Not good judgment from Chaos, a torn in the side, should he be removed as admin for doing that? NO. Should he be removed as admin if he continues to do this time after time, YES. This is the first "official" complaint, doesnt matter how much you guys complain about him on the serverchat.

Is this diverting?

Ive got no problems with DB what so ever. Youre a good bunch of lads. The gay jokes, stop with it, that's fucking pathetic.

I belive in second chances, I think Chaos should get one. Thats my personal opinion.

If he can change, him staying is fine with me. If he can't, then follow up with what you've said. Though don't forget that this isn't the first complaint made against him, it's only the first "big" public one. He already has done it multiple times as show by the logs, do people have to make a thread for each time to get the admins to take it seriously?

No. You shouldn't have to start a new thread every time. I cant say what is gonna happen. Karl is Tony Soprano. He's in charge.

Now you are pissing me off. My experience with Chaos on the server has been good. Ive never seen him abuse his rights. Ive seen the chat logs, its bad, its very bad, but its not just him. I find it funny that you can say im lacking people judging skills and reality sense based on what I have seen, do you know what I have seen?

I don't know what you have seen, but you are always welcome to enlighten us, if u you feel it's relevant for this thread.

Chaos must off course stand responsible to what he has done. It has gone to far, I agree. Have you take it up with Chaos besides in the serverchat?

Thats no use. Chaoslava is to obsessed with me being number 1, and constantly saying how bad DB is as a clan :) as i have written earlier, i have notified Karl about these matters, because Chaoslava maybe targeting DB, but also the servers players as whole. I don't believe i ever had a session of TF2 with Chaoslava without him being a complete whiner. But again.. i have notified Karl of this and he's already aware of the "problem".

Ive got no problems with DB what so ever. Youre a good bunch of lads. The gay jokes, stop with it, that's fucking pathetic.

And we got no problem with you. Korten MuZZeN speaks very highly of you.
But if you got a problem with our "gay" jokes, well thats ur problem. We are just here to have fun, and any future remarks against DB should be placed in another thread, since this is a thread about Chaoslava.

I belive in second chances, I think Chaos should get one. Thats my personal opinion.

Well.. Chaoslava has gotten many chances now.. And his behaviour hasn't changed, and it doesn't look like its going to change in the near future.. But i respect your opinion.

I am happy with giving Chaoslava the opportunity to appreciate the resonable comments that have been mentioned in this thread by the original creators, (Please drop this DB thing, or take it to another thread.) and please consider changing your behaviour to fit.

Other Admins please do keep an eye on the situation for everyone as all we want to do is game and have fun, and not get caught up in flame wars like last night (I being one of them).

Evil: If people have issues with certain jokes that you are saying, then please be as considerate to them as you are asking for them to be considerate to you

Thank you in advance

Ian...

You still forget this isn't anywhere near DB vs Chaoslava. This is just about Chaoslava being a bad admin, and has nothing to do with DB.

Again another fellow admin trying to divert attention to DB vs Chaoslava which does not exist anyway.. its just Chaoslava vs the rest. Admins should of course stick up for eachother, but i'm surprised you are sticking up for him now, even though he just yesterday continued to display his inmaturity, which again can be found in the chat log from the server.

This is the first "official" complaint yes, but I have written Karl 3 times about Chaoslava's bad attitude as an admin. And everyone else seems to think that I have now gone too far.. And it has.

And btw, if you still think he's a good admin, then you really really lack people judging skills and reality sense. No offence

But no, no blank page. Chaoslava must stand responsible to what he has done.

He was only addressing the whole DB vs me thing in the first sentence, and in it he told us to put it behind us. I'm quite willing to do that, if you completely ignore me, then i'll completely ignore you. KM keeps asking me to marry him for some reason.

Then Commander goes on to address the thread, yet you disregard everything he said after the first line, and you then tell him to stop talking about the DB vs me situation, even though he's saying to put it to rest.



Thanks for standing up for me commander. It seems these people are accusing me of base treachery to the server.. Bunch of jokers.


And yesterday was hilarious. After reading the thread I went on TF2 and was saying "oh, are you going to make a complaint against me for that?!"

it's called a joke. Learn to take it!


And evil evil, you seem to keep bringing up the issue of you being #1. I couldn't give a green shit. If I was so desperate to get #1, i'd never be off the server. In fact i've played, this last 7 days.. about 4-5 hours on the server. I've been going out with people alot more now that college is over, going out drinking and meeting loads of new people. You should try it some time.


Once more, thank you Commander, for your support. The only time I ever abuse my admin powers is when I jump in the air and freeze myself in setup. That's it. You all deserved the silences I gave out. I'd give you full permission to complain about it, had the silence not been for just 20 minutes. Learn to deal with it.

Like Lyle Spruce, I wipe my hands of this pitiful excuse for a thread. I tried many times to apologise to DB and was ignored. I even asked the other DB members to apologise to evil evil evil evil evil for me seeing as he has muted me, but no luck. I also typed it in the chat.

I'm out. Grow up and stop throwing your toys out the pram for such trivial reasons.

Did you not even read my post Chaoslava?

Please take it to a seperate thread.

Ian...

And yesterday was hilarious. After reading the thread I went on TF2 and was saying "oh, are you going to make a complaint against me for that?!"

it's called a joke. Learn to take it!

So when you say something like that, it's a joke, but when someone else says it against you, it's goading?

And evil evil, you seem to keep bringing up the issue of you being #1. I couldn't give a green shit. If I was so desperate to get #1, i'd never be off the server. In fact i've played, this last 7 days.. about 4-5 hours on the server. I've been going out with people alot more now that college is over, going out drinking and meeting loads of new people. You should try it some time.

Yet in the start of this thread:

Besides, you only took 1st place through a combination of obsessive playing and being a heavy or pyro and being ubered 600 times a round. This is a poor show of skill and what really annoys me is how every idolises you on the server, and you capitalise on this by playing your awful music for them.

If you didn't care about it you wouldn't constantly post about it, both about how bad he is or about how you didn't care. If you really wouldn't you wouldn't adress it to begin with.

Like Lyle Spruce, I wipe my hands of this pitiful excuse for a thread. I tried many times to apologise to DB and was ignored. I even asked the other DB members to apologise to evil evil evil evil evil for me seeing as he has muted me, but no luck. I also typed it in the chat.

I'd like an example of that, if you can show it. Pretty much most of the latest times they've been in the server at the same time there hasn't been any attempts to it. Although you have been pretty pleasant today in the server <3

So it's their fault because you tried to apologize to them and wasn't responded too? Is it even relevant to the reason people are complaining at you? This thread, is, once again, not about DB, so why is it pitiful, and why do you bring up DB as the reason to why it is?

The lack of input by me is due to me vacationing again. Sorry, but I have no internet access points here. It's quite hard to do stuff from my iPhone, so I'm more like an invisible administrator for the moment.

The lack of input by me is due to me vacationing again. Sorry, but I have no internet access points here. It's quite hard to do stuff from my iPhone, so I'm more like an invisible administrator for the moment.

Enjoy your holiday, and I am sure we will survive

Ian...

Like Lyle Spruce, I wipe my hands of this pitiful excuse for a thread. I tried many times to apologise to DB and was ignored. I even asked the other DB members to apologise to evil evil evil evil evil for me seeing as he has muted me, but no luck. I also typed it in the chat.

Well its good you have tried to apologize (that must be some kind of progression?) but i haven't seen any apologies yet. In-game most of DB have you on mute, because we simply just wanna play TF2 and you tend to spend more time in the chat and with ur mic than actually playing. And if you really wanted to give an apology, why do you keep on whining about us? Bad apology from my point of view. An Apology means you are sorry for the things you have done/said and you will not do it again. But yet i see you everyday whining over DB, and keeps straying from the topic that is you and not DB.

But lets try to keep me and/or DB out of this thread now.

Btw. happy vacation Karl

The lack of input by me is due to me vacationing again. Sorry, but I have no internet access points here. It's quite hard to do stuff from my iPhone, so I'm more like an invisible administrator for the moment.

Don't worry about it, enjoy your holiday while you're there . I know how frustrating it can be to browse forums from an iPhone too

Okey, suggestion. If these episodes happens again, PM Karl. Tell him what has happened and when. This will make things much easier for Karl.

If you guys think Im acting like a dick. Tell it to me on PM. If im still a dick, go to karl. If he doesnt do anything and im still acting like a dick. Make a thread. Btw im not a dick:P

Chaos I hope you see that you may have overreacted, many angry faces here. My advise, take experience from it, ignore ppl that annoys you and embrace the ppl that enjoys playing with you, me for example.

CASE CLOSED. (?)

Agreed, and thank you Commander.

Ian...

i still think he should at least be removed as an admin. At least. But that's my personal opinion.. Karl is the server admin, he has the final say in this matter.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” - Thomas S. Szasz

"Envy comes from peoples's ignorance of, or lack of belief in, their own gifts" -Random french guy

Lol, I rest my case...