help with buying new computer!

I think it's 2 or 4 times more powerful then yours,,,,

Troll?

and my pc is 0,3 times as powerful as most of your pcs!

I myself bought this one, it's delivered not assembled but it only takes an hour or two to put it together. I think it's 2 or 4 times more powerful then yours and it costed 150€ less.
http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=323200#reviews

lol an athlon II x2???????

Seriously >.>

I spent about 470 EUR on the machine i currently use and have a Phenom II x4 955 black >.>

Buying the parts gives you much better choices regarding future upgrades along with the parts that specifically fit your needs, i've never really seen a pre-built machine that had exactly what i want so i've built my last 4 by hand myself

Incidentally my PC specs

Phenom II x4 955 Black quad core @ 3.2ghz stock
ATI HD 5670 512MB
4GB DDR2 800Mhz (yeah its slow but came from an older box that partly died but newer RAM is dirt cheap)
250GB 7200RPM HDD for OS and most games with a 1.5TB 5400 RPM drive for storage of anime etc but most games run file from it with the exception of TF2 because it reads and writes so often but a simple symlink folder to the main C drive fixes that easily
Sony DVD-RW
750w PSU

If you know where to look and are willing to be patient and shop around you can build a really decent PC for cheap, although for what i paid for the GFX card a year ago you can get a much better spec card these days

I think it's 2 or 4 times more powerful then yours,,,,

Troll?

Indeed.

And exactly what Cyph said. When building your own computer, you get a computer that's much easier to upgrade, you get to build it specifically to your own needs, and you get a completely different view on it. It's almost like your own baby.
And since you made it yourself, it's much easier to repair.

Usually when you buy a prebuild computer that is cheap, is because it's middle-range, and the components that's in it, is almost out of date, so upgrading to anything new is near to impossible.

One thing that speaks very highly for buying a built PC, is warranty. It's much easier to go to your buyer when everything is bought the same place.
I have built the 3 PC's I have had so far myself, and I have experienced getting a lemon 3 times. A PSU, a Motherboard and a disk-controller. (That was not really a lemon, they just sent the wrong one, due to a mistake on their web-site. )
But all times, I have had no problems with sending the stuff back, and getting a new one by a week latest.

When you build your own PC you can combine the components that work best with eachother and are the most price efficient. Also you will know exactly what's in your PC, so you don't end up with an 'awesome gaming PC' with a shitty chinese PSU that will break after a year.

Also it's fun.

I would do that, but I am not that intelligent to the point of where I can build my own computer xD
plus its too much $$$

I would do that, but I am not that intelligent to the point of where I can build my own computer xD
plus its too much $$$

Xana, its CHEAPER to build yourself, and its thousands of tutorials on the interwebs, so thats no excuse

Its simple as this:

Step 1: Plug it

Step 2: *****

Step 3: Profit! xD

(Remember to open ur case first or this wont work)

Maybe u can have some problems creating a partition or installing ur HD's on RAID.. but its izi and u can search it on the internets ^^

Maniac, I bought my Gaming PC from Novatech. It had a faulty RAM issue. Sent RAM back on a Tuesday and got replacements on Thursday in the same week. Free.

Some might remember that I had built the PC I had before. Well, it ended up somehow becoming a sauna. Well, the CPU overheats reaching 100·C playing L4D2 xD. Anyway, I love my new BOUGHT PC <3, plus the cable management inside isn't too bad and you don't loose warranty for opening it up, like some PC retailers and sellers still do.

Mah 2cents.

Never seen anywhere where you lose warranty for opening it. That would be a sucky place to buy anything.. How can you remove dust from inside the chassis if you can't open it? xD

Well, as mentioned, I have never had any problem with sending stuff in.
And my cable management is awsome. And I made it myself. Which makes it even more awesome!

Complete computer

Pro
- dont worry about wrong components
- ready to play
- you have every part from one shop
- goodies like pick-up and return service for 0€
- longer warranty then normal (not always and sometimes you have to pay for it)

Contra
- you cant modify much (upgrade, exchange)
- you have to send the whole computer to the shop
- warranty is only available when you use the original hardware
- higher price
- sometimes long waittime til you get the computer

DIY computer

Pro
- you know what you get
- cheaper
- you can upgrade/exchange any part
- you dont have to send the whole pc if some hardware is broken
- much place for creativity (case modding, overclock, waterpump)

Contra
- not ready to play if something needs some time to arrive
- same warranty as like complete computer (i think 2 years right?)
- sometimes you need to buy from 2-3 different shops to hold the price down
(can be a pain when the hardware isnt available)
- you can damage the hardware if you are a newbie
(srsly read FAQ and tutorials xD)

thats my personal pro/contra list. i made for myself some experience with complete and DIY computers and "buy all parts from a local store"

i know someone will call me noob but my actual is a 50/50 thing xD. the shop where i bought it offered a "make a list of what you want and we build it". the offer was cool in some way cuz there was a few ways to pull the price down (payment, promo key) and i got a "5 year warranty",
energy drinks, coffein pills and a game (srsly )

that is now 2-3 years ago and i really would undo it! once and never again!

my old AMD Athlon 6400 was DIY but i bought all parts from one local shop. before someone call me noob again, i was 16 and my parents had not much trust in online buying and the stuff.
so i ended up with 1200€, which was 400€ more expensive than i would pay online (800€)


so yeah, i made many experience and many mistakes. and people who saying "im scared to build a pc for myself" dont be shy and ask friends or some tech forums. its not that hard to DIY.

Why was "- same warranty as like complete computer (i think 2 years right?)" under cons? :7

And as mentioned.. It's not that hard.
I was 14 when I built my first computer. There's a guide with your motherboard, on how to assemble everything, so it's not that difficult.

Only difficult part, is getting the right stuff. This is where most fail. If you get the right stuff, your hardware cooperates and gives even better performance.. Or it completely fails, and stuff isn't compatible with each other.

Why was "- same warranty as like complete computer (i think 2 years right?)"

because i dunno the laws in other countrys in germany you have the same warranty lengh of years on the hardware parts too.

Nova, you mentioned that you don't know what you get with your computer if you buy it, I knew what was in mine when I ordered it..

i got all the parts that i had added to my build list of the computer.

but like i said, it was a failure from me and its my first and last "complete" pc. and atm i dont find a reason to get a new pc to build it up and call it "handmade" :S

Not making yours Rig yourself it is like employing subcontractors to make your firstborn

Not making yours Rig yourself it is like employing subcontractors to make your firstborn

/agree

Not making yours Rig yourself it is like employing subcontractors to make your firstborn

Well spoken. :3

because i dunno the laws in other countrys in germany you have the same warranty lengh of years on the hardware parts too..

Well.. In Denmark you have 10 days where you can return everything, then you have 6 months, where you can return it, and seller has to prove that you mishandled it, in order to not have to pay, (If they want to do that), and then you have 1½ year after that, where you have to prove that whatever is wrong, derives from manufacturing.

in sweden i think it 7 or 8 days to return it.

Not making yours Rig yourself it is like employing subcontractors to make your firstborn

Well spoken. :3

well, i got my list already for my next computer and yes i build it this time by my own bare hands what i ever did .

the only problem is the money, since i decided to change from AMD to Intel


but if someone has spare 900€, your welcome

in sweden i think it 7 or 8 days to return it.

in germany you have 14 days

One tip:
DO NOT BUY HP OR HEWLETT PACKARD.

Unless you like seeing hardware melt etc.