31 Jul 2011, 07:19
Post #1
I realize that the a lot of the Aprilon community are payload fans, but there's no denying CTF_2Fort. I think that anyone that has ever played a Team Fortress game has or has had some sort of profound respect for 2Fort. I remember going through the 2Fort phase that I'm sure many have gone through, where I played NOTHING but 2Fort.
Fulsy and I had a discussion on steam about maps lastnight, and somehow 2Fort was bought up. We were talking about 2Fort, and what needed to be fixed. 2Fort is somehow addicting, but when you really think about it, there are serious problems with the map layout.
I figured the best thing to do was to spam the TF2 board with this topic.
Dunno if you guys have seen this or not, but here's an article about pretty much exactly what I'm talking about.
http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/08/08/why-cant-2fort-just-die/
That explains pretty much everything I was gonna bring up. From lack of flank routes to lack of health packs, this map is far too defensively stacked IMHO. I took the liberty of roughly sketching 2fort and relabling it with the problems as I see them (Paint.NET FTW).
Basically, my list of faults:
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Fulsy and I had a discussion on steam about maps lastnight, and somehow 2Fort was bought up. We were talking about 2Fort, and what needed to be fixed. 2Fort is somehow addicting, but when you really think about it, there are serious problems with the map layout.
I figured the best thing to do was to spam the TF2 board with this topic.
Dunno if you guys have seen this or not, but here's an article about pretty much exactly what I'm talking about.
http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/08/08/why-cant-2fort-just-die/
That explains pretty much everything I was gonna bring up. From lack of flank routes to lack of health packs, this map is far too defensively stacked IMHO. I took the liberty of roughly sketching 2fort and relabling it with the problems as I see them (Paint.NET FTW).
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Basically, my list of faults:
- Only one way up to the battlements
- There is a huge lack of health packs.
- Lack of flank routes
- Both routes to the intel start and end at the same point.
(Take a look at Well or Turbine, their routes are seperated and come out on seperate sides of the intel) - It's hard to ascend (Can't get out of the water pool w/o going in the sewers, also ties into #4)
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