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Author:  darkmessenger84 [ 10 Jul 2010, 20:59 ]
Post subject:  Suggesting regarding Expression 2
Since a lot of the time I see many people using Expression 2 as a means to torment/aggro other players, I think it's high time that it was made strictly a VIP tool only.
Author:  Ocfos88 [ 10 Jul 2010, 23:11 ]
Post subject:  Re: Suggesting regarding Expression 2
OBJECTION! you can't have pingas in heaven! :v
Author:  darkmessenger84 [ 11 Jul 2010, 17:42 ]
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Yet again another unrelated reply brought to you by Ocfos.
Author:  RoY4lZ [ 11 Jul 2010, 18:11 ]
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Indeed
Author:  darkmessenger84 [ 11 Jul 2010, 18:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Suggesting regarding Expression 2
In short, please stay on topic...
Author:  Gobo [ 17 Jul 2010, 21:32 ]
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No fucking way. :|

If someone minges, ban them. Don't impose a restriction on everyone, just because of a few fucktards...

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Fucking right-wing conservative fascist oppressive bastards
Author:  Jamza [ 17 Jul 2010, 21:37 ]
Post subject:  Re: Suggesting regarding Expression 2
Gobo wrote:
No fucking way. :|

If someone minges, ban them. Don't impose a restriction on everyone, just because of a few fucktards...


^ This.
Author:  darkmessenger84 [ 17 Jul 2010, 22:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: Suggesting regarding Expression 2
Jamza wrote:
What appears to have happened is that a guy on the server has tricked Roy into spawning a dupe or an E2 which secretly gave them access to Roy's admin commands.


^ This.

Also, this isn't first time the server's been fuxxed over because of a malicious E2 script. Is it?
Author:  Ultimate100 [ 17 Jul 2010, 22:06 ]
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Quote:
few fucktards...


Those few fucktards forced the server to terminate.
Author:  Jamza [ 17 Jul 2010, 22:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: Suggesting regarding Expression 2
darkmessenger84 wrote:
Jamza wrote:
What appears to have happened is that a guy on the server has tricked Roy into spawning a dupe or an E2 which secretly gave them access to Roy's admin commands.

Also, this isn't first time the server's been fuxxed over because of a malicious E2 script. Is it?

It wasn't a malicious E2 script. It was an Exploit. I wrote that before I had received the full picture and was making assumptions.

Even if E2 was disabled for normal players, admins would still have it so even if it was a malicious E2 script, disabling it for normal players would not have prevented it. They rely on being spawned unknowingly by admins.

99% of the E2 scripts I see are fine. Only 1% are debatable (like BoS), I have only ever seen a truly malicious E2 once. Disabling them because of the 1% is ridiculous.

Ultimate100 wrote:
Those few fucktards forced the server to terminate.

It happens. Its a sad fact of computing. Nothing is 100% safe and secure. When it happens all you can do is learn from it, patch the vulnerability and move on. No point making knee-jerk reactions like disabling E2 entirely.
Author:  Karl [ 18 Jul 2010, 11:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: Suggesting regarding Expression 2
Jamza wrote:
When it happens all you can do is learn from it, patch the vulnerability and move on. No point making knee-jerk reactions like disabling E2 entirely.

I don't know what to patch to prevent this, got any ideas?
Author:  Jamza [ 18 Jul 2010, 12:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Suggesting regarding Expression 2
Karl wrote:
Jamza wrote:
When it happens all you can do is learn from it, patch the vulnerability and move on. No point making knee-jerk reactions like disabling E2 entirely.

I don't know what to patch to prevent this, got any ideas?


It wasn't an E2 so no go disabling E2. Its very useful.

Its a vulnerability in Gmod. We have to wait for Garry to fix it.
Author:  Karl [ 18 Jul 2010, 12:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Suggesting regarding Expression 2
Jamza wrote:
Karl wrote:
Jamza wrote:
When it happens all you can do is learn from it, patch the vulnerability and move on. No point making knee-jerk reactions like disabling E2 entirely.

I don't know what to patch to prevent this, got any ideas?


It wasn't an E2 so no go disabling E2. Its very useful.

Its a vulnerability in Gmod. We have to wait for Garry to fix it.

How do you know this? Got a link to a Facepunch thread or something?
Author:  Jamza [ 18 Jul 2010, 12:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Suggesting regarding Expression 2
Karl wrote:
How do you know this? Got a link to a Facepunch thread or something?

No, but I can tell.

From the events that happened, I can rule out a malicious E2 script. The only logical explanation from what I can gather is that there is a vulnerability that is currently unpatched. If you can look at the logs of when it happened, you should send them to Garry and say there is possibly a vulnerability there.
Author:  Karl [ 18 Jul 2010, 12:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: Suggesting regarding Expression 2
Jamza wrote:
Karl wrote:
How do you know this? Got a link to a Facepunch thread or something?

No, but I can tell.

From the events that happened, I can rule out a malicious E2 script. The only logical explanation from what I can gather is that there is a vulnerability that is currently unpatched. If you can look at the logs of when it happened, you should send them to Garry and say there is possibly a vulnerability there.

Which events are you speaking of (just to clarify)?
When did it happen. What should I look for in the logs? What logs? Console or ULX logs?
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